Splitting up? Muahaha.

i figured the science types could be military officer types (cos you can attain a higher rank when you join w/ advanced degrees) with perhaps some civvie consultants. is that what you were thinking too, or…? think tank, baby (but without Baltar… maybe he's too damn arrogant and busy elsewhere.)

speaking as someone who ended up playing a cylon the second time around (you know, i'm dead, no wait, 7 months later hi again!) it's really hard to do without stepping all over everyone else's rp. since Cor had already died, i wasn't too boohoo about the possibility of her being killed again (and never expected to survive running into Limmer the first time anyway). i think we should avoid over-use of skinjob NPCs and probably not have them as PCs.

also we should be aware that in having a station and a Battlestar, if they eventually split up, it'll be like running 2 games at once. (kinda like on BSP where there were civvie plots and mil plots.)

As for the ship potentially having a cloaking device, I think that may be a bad move personally. There hasn't been any mention of one in the show, save for the 'stealth ship' that they created on BSG. If the Colonial Fleet had a cloaking device, you'd think they would have installed it on all their Battlestars. What would make more sense is if the station above the planet wasn't just all about terraforming. What if it were a Colonial Think Tank of the brightest minds in the Colonies and once the terraforming was begun, they could be set to other projects such as developing some sort of cloak device or new weapon. That'd give players opportunities to come up with weapon projects, develop them and then test and implement them ICly, providing some good RP.

I know Faraday has been posting and I know that you guys have the old database, too, so coding should be minimal, but I thought I'd volunteer if you need any assistance in that regard.

Navy is on the Support Station PAS. There are no skinjob, sneaky-cylons hiding in our midst. Ok no sneaky-cylons that we see on the series. Ok, not any skinjobs at this time… 'Not to say there may not be some corporate spy' }:>

As for the recons, yeah, this was my thoughts as well. I've added to the theme now of what I put on the MUSH and copied to the Wiki. I've added another Pic under the Genesis Station.

I am currently making small star system maps too, to keep an outline for myself of Beginning to End - I have a point where I figure they will end up. But RP can also change that. I'm not going to stomp in - You Must Go Here! Heck we may all blow up and just be space dust.

My idea is these Scientists, Astrophysicists or whatever is hanging around, plus the Military, has an idea of other Star Systems out there. Just like we in RL do and they have theories of these places. As I mentioned on channel they know the Cylons are --> over there at their homeworld somewhere and now they hit the colonies.

So, we wanna be --—> Way opposite of where they are. Can we sneak off? hmm…

I have to say that the idea of a secret installation that the Cylons can't easily get at is a pretty good one. Another thing that I think should be a must is guaranteed (and somewhat frequent) combat. Social RP is an awesome thing, but nothing pulls numbers (and lifeblood in the form of players) onto a game like good ol' shooting of things.

I don't know about Marines being in charge of a starship, though. You mentioned having pilots, which sort of means having Navy, unless the pilots weren't navy and were marines… but that sort of seems counter-intuitive to the way the show and Pacifica portrayed the organization of the Colonial Fleet. Navy pilots fly Marines to the ground or to other ships where they do their shooty shooty thing with big guns and blow things up.

But back to shooting things. You might consider not having any skinjobs in the fleet. Why? Because this detail, out in the middle of nowhere, super top secret and (seeing Jonas2625's comment right below this one as of this writing), the force protecting this project never had the CNS system installed by Baltar. It stands to reason then that maybe it was secret enough that the Cylons never infiltrated it. The Metallic Toasters are scarier (and much harder to take down) anyway. If you didn't have any skinjobs, you'd also avoid the issue of having A. players play them or B. having to have staff NPC them. Also, between BSG and Pacifica the 'oh noes, anyone could be a cylon' thing has been done. Granted, it's a part of the Battlestar Mythos, but there are other ways of instigating conflict and giving players that good old 'oh shit' factor.

Why not let them simmer a bit with no communication (also in relative safety as no one knows where they are), before someone gets the bright idea to go scouting. Start sending recon patrols out quick like flint to the Colonies, start to piece together what happened, run into a Cylon Baseship or ten (oh shit!). They flee home, we brood about the demise of civilization, then we decide payback is going to be a bitch and use this awesome hiding place of ours to stage attacks and rescue people.

And, if we really want to get themely, toss in some religiousity in the form of some obscure 'forgotten' book of some prophet… think how the Catholic Church rejected some gospels from the final cut of the Bible… describing some of the events taking place. The end goal would be continuing the war, establishing a new home (perhaps the project was started just in case the Cylons DID attack), and if you want some continuity, have the game end somewhere around the time that Pacifica's timeline wrapped up with permanent settlement and the two New Colonies making contact.

Or something like that.

Whatever you end up doing, can I be a pilot and pewpew things?

<3

What I'm looking at here, from the way I did my little map. Is they are three jumps away from the colonies. What is that? Half a light year or something? Anyway, they'd be pretty much off radar for a little while.

If we start up 45 days before the attacks and manage a month after, I think that will give us the amount of time to get butts in gear. Planning, strategies, etc.

o The Armistice Station is destroyed by Cylon forces.

o The Twelve Colonies are heavily bombarded by nuclear bombs.
o Picon Fleet Headquarters is destroyed.
o Galactica engages Cylon Raiders and survives with moderate damage and 85 dead.
o Last transmission from the Colonies received to Galactica.
o Commander Adama assumes overall Fleet command and orders regroup at Ragnar Anchorage.
o Caprica Government Headquarters destroyed. All top secret military files lost. Caprica investors buried under tons of rubble when Raiders hit the Hylar building.

Genesis Days Begin - No One Knows We Are Here.

T-Minus Day 45 BCH - Players start roleplaying.

Day 3 ACH

o Last transmission from Colonies. Static leaves transmission a puzzle.

Day 5 ACH

o Transfer ships for rotating marines fail to arrive.
o Major Stiger raises Alert to Code Orange.

Day 10 ACH

o Supply ships fail to arrive.

Day 11 ACH

o Picon and Aerelon response units reportedly hiding people in an underground bunker.
o Sagittaron Resistance begins.

Er..when I find it again. Hah.

Private - PFC - Lance Cpl - Corporal - Sergeant - Staff Sgt - Gunnery Sgt - Master Sgt - Sgt Major

Note that this has 9 ranks, whereas the old BSP rank list only had 8 (old goof on my part). You could fix it to make the Navy/Marines match by adding a Petty Officer 3rd class, which is the missing rank between Specialist and PO2. Then they'd both have 9 ranks.

I can imagine them holding off the first attack, if the Cylons sent an underpowered force, but with hundreds of base stars at their disposal, it seems impossible for the Colonials to hold out for long if they stayed in the system.

System has natural mining resources due to heavy asteriod presence, with a small spotter station on the fringe of the system with DRADIS relay bouys set through the system to aid navigation through the asteroids. trying to navigate through the asteroids without this is a nightmare.

Due to security and blackout considerations, this force was never installed with the CNS system created by Baltar, and is therefore immune to the Cylon 'Smash through your military' virus. Still, the force consists of only one Battlestar, a few military support ships and a number of other military forces, such as a planetside base more dedicated to terraforming.

Cylon attack would be overwhelming, but the colonials could fight back and eventually bug out. Number superiority would be with the Cylons, but home court advantage would be Colonial, who have 'dug in' considerably. Skinjobs could be few, but present, and with all the security, would be hard pressed to do much of anything under the tight lockdown in the system, and more able to move only after the attack.

There's my spitballing ideas out there.

We know very little of what the Valkyrie actually is or did. Speculation is it was going to be a much faster and smaller ship to replace the old ships and Pegasus was the 'new big ship'.

One reason I have put the Marines in charge of it instead of the navy fleet command? It is a warship, albeit a smaller one. Adama had it and then our Super Sekret Ninja forces took hold. Does it have capabilities no one knows about yet? Very possible it will come out as I'm sure the Major knows. ;)

I didn't want another Pacifica, we had so much fun there and we ended our time. But, I did know people missed space and combat, for some ungodly reason. HEE!

Babylon 5 Meets BSG? I didn't think that, but I do like it.

Skinjobs. They are around. These people probably have no idea, there won't be cloned copies of any of the ones we know here. Do they know about this government project? I dunno, do they? They were so fixated on Caprica, nothing about the other colonies were really mentioned. They exterminated people, they took them over as the war progressed, but all files are now destroyed. That is my main point of:
No One Knows We Are Here.

I'm not saying they will never discover it. In fact, they probably scouted it at some point. The moon is dead, the planet is inhabitable, no scans would have shown human types. It's probably on their starcharts. But not anything they are interested in, for the time being. Rad field? Heavy asteroid fields? Small sun goes nova? I agree we need a defense line. :)

Sorry so wordy :)

sounds like folks want Cylon combat (who can blame them?), so that presents a difficulty. Need to figure out what keeps the Cylons from finding the station and then nuking it into oblivion. Something like Aima's idea about the rad field might work, but even Ragnar didn't keep the Cylons out indefinitely. It just discouraged them. And it's unlikely that there'd be a base with several thousand people on it secret enough that the Cylons couldn't find some record/mention of it in the Colonial databases.

Poor Picon, Aerelon and Sagittaron were just there. So they blew up the Picon station parking lot. Oh well. Those guys are dead and dumb.

Three: Wait…science nerds are missing!

Eight: But I don't love any of them, I love another!

Ninja: *cacklingsuperseekretly*

Limmer on Pacifica: Man, did I get on the wrong ship.

Limmer Lost in Space

Space Rednecks and Science nerds. What a combination. Besides, can't you just /see/ Fara as a disgruntled border patrol WO-man? ;)

SR1: Why do we hafta watch these science nerds? They dig in the dirt when the frakkin' stuff is blowin' at 85mph.

SR2: *swigs some beer* They could just open their mouths and catch it, like you.

Jonas is Geller
Round2 - I /think/ is Kaoz.
Jokanin - Joska
Me is Alora
You is Corbett

science nerds: 'darn, i need more than three weeks for my crucial soil samples.'

THREE WEEKS LATER.

marines and pilots: I can haz relief ship?

science nerds: 'ha ha, just one more soil sample while waiting for those new schmucks arrive…"

FORTY TWO SOIL SAMPLES LATER.

science nerds: 'i sense a disturbance in the force.'

marines and pilots: *sob into moonshine*

FIRED!

… eventually someone would figure they can talk to each other, just the colonies aren't responding. and no other Battlestars seem to be in range. ohnoes.

or some crap like that.

i dunno =D

disgruntled border patrol? ehehe.

space rednecks?

:D

Anyway… Am here. am reading stuff and trying to put in my grain of sand. Might be able to conttribute more on the weekend.

I think Polish. We'll all speak it. ;)

If anyone wants to toss some things up for Player help, fine with me. Go for it :)

As for pilots. Of course, the Fara Fun, worked well for quite awhile. :)

I'm thinking that "No they have no idea the War started yet."

Supply lines cut.
Comms back home cut.
Maybe they had a month left, then they were going to be relieved by another group.

They could get some staticy stuff that they have to pick apart.

We could also bring in a small part of what Fara had planned, some disgruntled border patrol that is down on the planet itself.

These are more germs of ideas.

Let's say some of the more strategic people of (whichever Colony) decided to work in secret with the government. Like we don't have that going on all the time, it really isn't a stretch from RL.

And another SpaceStation was being implemented. The Armistace line had the station where there were to be meetings between the Cylons and Humans, but sat there for 40 years, till the skinjobs showed up and blew it to hell and the war started.

This station is set up out of the way, not exactly something the Cylons have discovered or even looked into. Caprica was the main area they seemed to infiltrate for information.

Maybe not so on Picon or Tauron, etc. Even Saggie or Aerelon, even if they were considered poor colonies. Who would even think they could manage such a thing. But, perhaps they did with another Colony. Doesn't really matter who at this point.

So we have a Base Station, being implemented and built during this 40 year lapse of any cylon activiity, because someone has the intuition that it just can't last for long and the fighting amongst the Colonies are the main problem, which keeps everyone's attention elsewhere.

Starbase Genesis named after their Valkyire class Battlestar comes into realization. Floating out there in some rings of space to help keep it out of scanning range. They do have the battlestar there, to use as protection, but the FTL is in need of an overhaul. Marines most likely man this ship as it is pure defense and military.

(The thought comes to mind of Star Trek too, where they were working on Genesis for a barren planet below them, but had their station above with scientists, engineers, and whatnot.)

This gives the group a place to live. It also gives an 'almost habital planet' below that hasn't been explored yet. Their own scanning has given them very little on what is down there.

Thoughts?

http://battlestargenesis.wikidot.com/local--files/forum:thread/Valkyries.jpg

Battlestar Valkyrie

12 Double Turrets (possible 4 more mounted under the allagator hull 2p,2s)
20 Double Dual Purpose Guns Capable of firing cannon fire and conventional missiles
4 heavy bow mounted guns mounted forward in 2 guns of 2
Numerous point defense dual rapid fire guns for fighter defense and defense against incoming missiles.

Crew Estimated: 1800-2000
Marines: 200-400
Vipers: 4 Squadrons of 20
Raptors: At least 8
Shuttles: 2-6

Length is : 1000-1300m
Width from pod to pod comes up to 544m
Height is roughly 100m

Flight pod Length: 603m
Flight pod width: 107m
Flight pod height: 62m

Viper Runway width - 60 feet, Opening - 137 feet.

From a Wiki Site - http://omegagroup.wikia.com/wiki/Valkyrie_class - This gives an interesting listing of things, for those into the details.

What Theme to begin with?

After the main attacks on the Colonies?
After they Cylon's presumably leave the Colonies to chase after Earth?

Genesis is a Battlestar that partially survived the attacks and they worked to get it back together so they could get the hell out. It could be of the Valkyrie line, which was a much smaller support ship. This could be the reason they don't go hogwild off into space to find the Galactica. Maybe it only gets them away far enough to some off-shoot planet, where they can try to survive without being followed by the main Cylon fleet. They could have found records of some place after scavenging, possibly a planet that wasn't checked out too well by the Colonial fleet yet.

Anyway, pitch some ideas here. I'm all ears. ;)